Comments on: BitTorrent: Old Technology in a New Box http://adamfisk.wordpress.com/2006/08/21/bittorrent-old-technology-in-a-new-box/ P2P, Collaboration, Networks Fri, 03 May 2013 03:36:52 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.com/ By: licspoile http://adamfisk.wordpress.com/2006/08/21/bittorrent-old-technology-in-a-new-box/#comment-6401 Sun, 26 Oct 2008 13:21:29 +0000 https://adamfisk.wordpress.com/2006/08/21/bittorrent-old-technology-in-a-new-box/#comment-6401 Think about it… I want to improve my normal control Good joke :) What makes a bowling alley so quiet? You can hear a pin drop.

]]> By: adamfisk http://adamfisk.wordpress.com/2006/08/21/bittorrent-old-technology-in-a-new-box/#comment-6225 Wed, 09 Jan 2008 16:11:52 +0000 https://adamfisk.wordpress.com/2006/08/21/bittorrent-old-technology-in-a-new-box/#comment-6225 Soulseek is a spectacular tool for finding music. I like the niche they’ve carved out in terms of becoming a haven for more esoteric music that:

1) Attracts true music aficionados
2) Doesn’t make much money anyway, so the music industry doesn’t really care

That said, I’m much more interested in general media distribution systems — music in particular doesn’t interest me all that much. That’s not to knock SoulSeek, but I’m personally much more interested in using peer-to-peer as an architecture for distributing all types of content, ideally non-copyrighted.

]]> By: nesha gavrilo http://adamfisk.wordpress.com/2006/08/21/bittorrent-old-technology-in-a-new-box/#comment-6224 Wed, 09 Jan 2008 12:57:49 +0000 https://adamfisk.wordpress.com/2006/08/21/bittorrent-old-technology-in-a-new-box/#comment-6224 and what about soulseek p2p software. it’s still delicious after so many years.
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]]> By: Ant Bryan http://adamfisk.wordpress.com/2006/08/21/bittorrent-old-technology-in-a-new-box/#comment-279 Fri, 16 Feb 2007 19:35:49 +0000 https://adamfisk.wordpress.com/2006/08/21/bittorrent-old-technology-in-a-new-box/#comment-279 You might be interested in Metalink. It’s used by download managers (HTTP/FTP) and hybrid HTTP/FTP/P2P clients.

http://www.metalinker.org/

]]> By: adamfisk http://adamfisk.wordpress.com/2006/08/21/bittorrent-old-technology-in-a-new-box/#comment-73 Thu, 23 Nov 2006 14:14:14 +0000 https://adamfisk.wordpress.com/2006/08/21/bittorrent-old-technology-in-a-new-box/#comment-73 Yeah, I don’t buy it. Just running your application as a service solves the problem far better. In Bram Cohen’s tit-for-tat, you always have the same number of uploaders as you have downloaders. You’re immediately limiting yourself to the speed of the uploaders, a bad idea given slower upstream speeds than downstream. Woops.

More importantly, though, tit-for-tat solves a problem no one has. Running the software as a service immediately makes a system perform far better than any tit-for-tat approach because you always have more uploaders than downloader, i.e. excess capacity to play with.

-Adam

]]> By: David Harrison http://adamfisk.wordpress.com/2006/08/21/bittorrent-old-technology-in-a-new-box/#comment-72 Thu, 23 Nov 2006 10:40:11 +0000 https://adamfisk.wordpress.com/2006/08/21/bittorrent-old-technology-in-a-new-box/#comment-72 Bram Cohen’s major contribution was NOT swarming. It was the first system to address the lack of motivation for users to contribute resources to the swarm. The solution turned out to not be that difficult: repeated rate-based tit-for-tat with forgiveness. Or more simply put:

Give and ye shall receive.

]]> By: adamfisk http://adamfisk.wordpress.com/2006/08/21/bittorrent-old-technology-in-a-new-box/#comment-36 Sun, 17 Sep 2006 20:57:02 +0000 https://adamfisk.wordpress.com/2006/08/21/bittorrent-old-technology-in-a-new-box/#comment-36 Good point on the eDonkey front. Jed McCaleb’s actually a pretty good friend, a good soccer player, and a great programmer. I agree the strength of BitTorrent is it’s transparency, although I think it could go further. There are major, major issues with it that I’ll write about soon.

1) It doesn’t implement HTTP, choosing to break compatibility with the entire rest of the Internet.
2) It doesn’t traverse firewalls. Any p2p app worth its salt can traverse firewalls these days. Not BitTorrent.
3) Two trackers can be distributing the same file, but they never know of each others’ sources.
4) Making the server problem way too hard — all you need is a hash embedded in URL, and there should be 0 required server-side changes to implement multi-source downloading.

Those are just the ones that come to mind right now, but I’m sure I can think of more. Oh yeah, it doesn’t publish resources in any standard way.

]]> By: Ken http://adamfisk.wordpress.com/2006/08/21/bittorrent-old-technology-in-a-new-box/#comment-35 Sat, 16 Sep 2006 18:30:57 +0000 https://adamfisk.wordpress.com/2006/08/21/bittorrent-old-technology-in-a-new-box/#comment-35 Don’t forget edonkey! What really makes bittorrent shine is its transparent flexibility: choose your client, choose your search engines, choose your trackers, and choose what part of the “network” you want to be involved in uploading/downloading on.

]]> By: GV http://adamfisk.wordpress.com/2006/08/21/bittorrent-old-technology-in-a-new-box/#comment-25 Sun, 27 Aug 2006 02:54:06 +0000 https://adamfisk.wordpress.com/2006/08/21/bittorrent-old-technology-in-a-new-box/#comment-25 this is way over my head but I am enjoying a stroll through your mental meanderings.
xo

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